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Thursday, January 21, 2016

Note To MaryEllen Elia, NY Pols And NY Press: Test Scores Are Still Part Of APPR Evaluations

Keshia Clukey at Politico NY:

ALBANY — As education commissioner MaryEllen Elia updated a Senate panel on her agency's 2016 priorities Wednesday, lawmakers noted a "different vibe in the room.”

Her meeting with the Senate Education Committee came a little more than six months after she took over heading the agency from John King, a champion of the Common Core learning standards who became a polarizing figure in the state after their troubled rollout. He left for the federal agency and is now acting secretary of education there.

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Among the priorities that Elia detailed Wednesday were revising the principal and teacher evaluation system, involving teachers in revising the Common Core learning standards and creating state assessments.

The Regents board has already put a moratorium on the use of student test scores in teacher and principal evaluations through the 2019-2020 school year while the system is under review. It has also made changes to the state tests, shortening them and increasing the time allotted, and the Education Department is reviewing the standards, assessments and evaluations.

Moratorium?

Is this a "moratorium"?

Common Core grade 3-8 scores won't be used for teacher evaluations until 2019 but other tests will still be in there including high school Regents Exams unless they are tied to a state growth model. Does going from a growth model to a Student Learning Objective (SLO) system constitute an end to high stakes testing?  I don't think so.

Footnote 10 in the SED Q & A states:
Teachers with SLOs that are based on Regents assessments will not be impacted and must continue to use SLOs with such assessments.

This is footnote 3 from the Q & A from SED:

Please note that teachers and principals whose APPRs do not include the grades 3-8 ELA and math State assessments or State-provided growth scores on Regents examinations are not impacted by the transition regulations and their evaluations shall be calculated pursuant to their district’s/BOCES’ approved APPR Plan without any changes. For example, a building principal of a CTE program whose APPR utilizes CTE assessments as part of the student performance component of their APPR will not be impacted by the transition regulations.

For math and ELA teachers, the Regents exams are the new Common Core exams, many with low passing rates - especially in math.

Moratorium on using Common Core test scores for teacher evaluations?

Hardly.

When will the education press stop writing stuff like "the Regents board has already put a moratorium on the use of student test scores in teacher and principal evaluations through the 2019-2020 school year while the system is under review"?

Because it's not true - NYSED's APPR Q&A lays that out quite specifically, as did Governor Cuomo a while back.

The more accurate description is, there is a partial moratorium on test scores for some teachers while the rest continue to be linked to test scores - including Common Core Regents test scores for some high school teachers.

15 comments:

  1. So, does that mean elementary art, music, and PE teachers will be evaluated for 50% based on the math and ELA scores of the students in their building? (Just like previous years?) Any info is appreciated!

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  2. Anyone notice how chalkbeat formerly gotham news has a sad situation there in that there use to be so many comments that you could see 40-50 comments per article. Now, today chalkbeat stories take maybe a comment or two. It seems most readers have abandoned chalkbeat because the site has become a cheer leading site for charter schools!! So, Chaz's site has seen a spike now in comments as most of chaz's blogs receive dozens of comments. Yeah Chaz!! Chalkbeat has been exposed as a sham site funded by the same dogs we all know but guess what....if chalkbeat is any indication as to the mind set of nyc educators then looking at their 1 or 2 comments per article tells us that most educators in nyc despise these fake charter schools and their bull shit stats and the balls on them to throw our special needs students out the window or under the bus!! Letita James has filed a law suit against eva and her goonies claiming just that..they throw our special needs kids under the bus. Yes baby lets go after the eva's of the city and expose them for what they are which is money grubbing scabs who use children as objects.

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  3. RBE, funny how things work. Majority of teachers were SAVED by test scores last year. Most teachers in my campus received Developings but with the Test Scores, the Developings turned into Effectives. There's a whole group of teachers, thousands upon thousands who do not "fit in" to your logic. The test scores are actually helping buddy.

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    1. This is very true and happened to me. I received an over developing on my performance but in September with the scores I actually got a final performance rating of effective thanks to the tests. Another mistake by the state to allow tests to count. In my case as well as others it works for us not against. Ha!

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    2. Bullshit. In the first year I received high marks on classroom observations, but, my growth model rated me ineffective. This despite having had a higher than average regents exam passing rate for over 10 years (including the year in question).

      The next year, my classroom observations dropped as my AP came under pressure to make my observation ratings conform to the previous year's growth model. Interestingly, my pass rate spiked, and my growth model rating jumped to effective. I did nothing differently!!! Indeed, my AP's ratings alleged that I was actually teaching worse than I had been in the previous year!!!

      The test based ratings don't save anyone. They are totally arbitrary. The American Statistical Association says so. As does the President of Math for America. The. ratings. mean. nothing. They are nearly completely random! More than 84% of your rating is complete statistical noise! It can hurt you one year and help you the next. But, the one thing it does consistently from year-to-year is ensure that you are not rated fairly!

      Stop parroting Mulgrew. He tried to say the exact thing you're saying when he tried to sell his horrible deal to delegates. He is wrong. The experts say so. My experience says so. You know yours does, too.

      This system is horrible. It is demoralizing teachers. They tried this 50 years ago and gave it up for the same problems we see now. Read Diane Ravitch. Illinois tried it. Failed miserably. Get rid of this.

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    3. Those of you who got low ratings which jumped were only getting low ratings because your AP knew the tests would push you up. They wanted the jump to land you in the effective category, not the highly effective category. They knew what your test scores are going to be because Advance makes predictions for each student. The predictions are very accurate because the one thing a student's test score is most correlated to is. . . you guessed it, the student's previous year's test score! Your AP was putting their thumb on the scale the whole year.

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  4. If principals can make a good guess of how the test scores are going to be, they can still cook the observations to make a teacher developing if they want. No matter what anybody says, Danielson is NOT OBJECTIVE. Rather it is a tool that can be used to protect or harm a teacher.

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  5. The use of local exams in evaluations is an open invitation for abuse and cheating.

    Just think about those special review sessions many will be holding.

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  6. Give Elia, Cuomo and their junior partner, Mulgrew, (they obviously concocted this together) some credit: they have successfully misdirected and confused almost everyone on this matter.

    Tests are still a major part of evaluations, but few realize it.

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    1. ...until they're up for an expedited 3020a.

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  7. This misdirection is more properly called fraud.

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    1. Yes, I was being polite.

      It's misdirection in the same way a three-card monte player tries to distract his mark, and teachers have shown themselves to be very gullible/passive marks.

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  8. Read this mathematics professor's description of test score ratings. He gets it. Why don't more people listen? 10% test-based or 50% test based have the same effect.

    The public knows the test based ratings are bad. Students have lost all faith in the fairness of the exams. Ed leaders and the media are doing their best to perpetuate the con job that this system is okay so the bottom doesn't fall out on the electeds who started it.

    http://jerseyjazzman.blogspot.com/2016/01/parcc-teacher-evaluations-junk.html?m=1

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  9. Certainly it will create something good idea to general public's point of view and afterward there would be lot more things to be discussed, so one must needs to consider those of vital aspects.

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    saya PAK SLEMET posisi sekarang di malaysia
    bekerja sebagai BURU BANGUNAN gaji tidak seberapa
    setiap gajian selalu mengirimkan orang tua
    sebenarnya pengen pulang tapi gak punya uang
    sempat saya putus asah dan secara kebetulan
    saya buka FB ada seseorng berkomentar
    tentang AKI NAWE katanya perna di bantu
    melalui jalan togel saya coba2 menghubungi
    karna di malaysia ada pemasangan
    jadi saya memberanikan diri karna sudah bingun
    saya minta angka sama AKI NAWE
    angka yang di berikan 6D TOTO tembus 100%
    terima kasih banyak AKI
    kemarin saya bingun syukur sekarang sudah senang
    rencana bulan depan mau pulang untuk buka usaha
    bagi penggemar togel ingin merasakan kemenangan
    terutama yang punya masalah hutang lama belum lunas
    jangan putus asah HUBUNGI AKI NAWE 085-218-379-259
    tak ada salahnya anda coba
    karna prediksi AKI tidak perna meleset
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