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Saturday, March 5, 2011

E.D. Kain Defends Tenure And Due Process In Forbes

Seeing a defense of tenure and due process for teachers at Forbes is like seeing an article espousing the delights of atheism at Catholic Digest, yet nonetheless here it is, in full:

Andrew Sullivan posts this chart via the Chicago Tribune.

It’s unsurprising that the Tribune would spin this to make it look as bad as possible. The paragraph at the top of the chart describes the process of firing a bad teacher as “a legal process so cumbersome, so tangled in red tape, that many public school principals don’t even try.”

Charts such as this one are misleading for a number of reasons.

First, this chart only applies to tenured teachers. Bad teachers can be weeded out much quicker before gaining tenure. School officials need to use this time window appropriately.

Second, the point of tenure is to protect teachers from arbitrarily being fired. Teachers need protection from over-zealous bosses and ideological politicians. This is the same thinking behind seniority rules, which protect more expensive teachers (i.e. veterans) from being laid off due to budget cuts. Teaching is not a high-paying job compared to jobs in the private sector, and one of the benefits is some job security. Occasionally this means bad teachers take longer to fire.

But the answer to that problem is not making all teachers easier to fire. This would undermine teacher recruitment. If you take away pensions, job security, tenure, the ability to unionize, and basically all the other perks of teaching, what you’re left with is a very difficult job with no job security, mediocre benefits, and relatively low pay. This is not how you attract good people to a profession, or how you guarantee a good education experience for your children. Paying starting teachers more but making their long-term prospects in the career less certain is also wrong-headed. High turnover is not desirable for any business, teaching included.

Third, the chart claims that it take 2-5 years to fire a bad teacher. This is true, but also misleading. The process requires one year of remediation. Is anyone suggesting that a remedial period is unwarranted? Many private sector jobs require similar remedial steps for ‘unsatisfactory’ employees. These steps take longer and are more complicated as the job in question becomes more difficult to assess. Successful teaching is very difficult to assess.

Then there are a series of hearings. This is the due process period put in place to ensure that the actual reasons behind firing the teacher are legitimate. Is the Tribune suggesting that there should be no hearing process at all? Even then, the hearings only take place if the teacher requests them. Many teachers will not put up this much of a fight, but some do.

The hearings take about ten months. Much of this time is spent filing paperwork, setting dates, and so forth. At the end of the ten months, if the School board agrees with the dismissal, the teacher is fired. That’s just under two years, most of which was spent attempting to boost the teacher’s performance. So in just under two years a teacher can be fired. However…

…at this point the teacher can file an appeal in court. This is where the Tribune is getting the vast bulk of time for its 2-5 years estimate. Again, any citizen who loses their job as the right to take this up in court. That there is a procedure outlined for teachers to do this is completely meaningless. Of course a teacher can file for wrongful dismissal in court. So can you if you are fired. This process can take years if you want to drag it out long enough, through appellate courts and a long and exhausting appeals process.

For those criticizing this process, would you deny Francisco Mendoza the right to appeal his termination? Mendoza was a 25-year veteran of the Chicago public schools, widely acknowledged as an excellent teacher. He took sick leave when he was diagnosed with cancer, and when he returned home he found a termination letter. Apparently the year of remedial work was overlooked in this case. Indeed, for every anecdote of bad teachers not getting fired, we can find others to show how excellent teachers were fired.

And if all that isn’t enough, a tiny bit of digging reveals that Chicago school district officials laid off 1300 teachers in 2010, including some tenured teachers who were recognized nationally for their quality – without any due process at all.


If people actually look beyond the NY Post headlines, they might understand that it is actually quite easily to get rid of "bad teachers."

I have seen three different principals get rid of teachers they didn't want at my school.

It doesn't happen often, but then again, the assistant principals are careful about who they hire.

When the axe does fall, it often happens before tenure is awarded, as Kain notes is easiest to do, but I have seen it done to tenured senior teachers too - albeit, just a couple.

Nonetheless, the argument that it is so difficult to get rid of "bad teachers" just doesn't hold water.

The "bad teacher" argument is very simply being used by corporate education reformers and their shills in the media to allow states and cities to fire teachers at will at any time for any reason. Once seniority and tenure is disposed of, states and cities will routinely lay off or fire expensive veteran teachers NO MATTER THEIR "QUALITY."

That's the truth. That's what often happens in the private sector and the corporatists who like those conventions there want to bring them to the public sector as well.

The jive of it is that the corporate reformers say, as the NYCDOE likes to state, that they put "Children First...Always" when the EXACT opposite is true.

Lowering class size, providing safe, clean academic environments, ridding the schools of bed bugs, PCB's and other dangers, providing healthy food, and allowing teachers to teach a diverse, interesting curricula that inspires a love of learning is putting children first.

What the corporate ed deformers are doing is putting cost first.

9 comments:

  1. Couldn't agree more. That article was a great find. Most I ever read Forbes is never.

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  2. This IS great. As you said, RBE, the fact that it appeared in Forbes, of all places, a most unexpected venue, lends it more authenticity - it can't just be dismissed as "union shilling." The end of tenure and seniority rights would undoubtedly exacerbate an atmosphere in lower education that continues to see favoritism and cronyism in schools - in my old school, excellence only mattered if the principal didn't like you. The more he didn't like you, the better a teacher you had to be - no one really knew if his "pets" were any good, as teachers, that is, but they sure did enjoy some perks that none of the rest of us could. They had access into his private office and were able to use his private copy machine, while the rest of us had to put up with two copiers that were constantly breaking down. The pets were assigned the best classrooms, with A/C, while most of the rest of us sweated it out in classrooms we shared with the pigeons because the windows had no gates. That kind of favoritism is bad enough. I can't imagine what would happen if tenure and seniority ended.

    Oh, yes, I can.

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  3. Let's be honest here about "tenure," from somebody who is presumably a "bad" teacher because my school district chose to violate federal law and state statutes in order to protect an incompetent principal, who, by the way, did not implement ANY improvement program, violated FMLA, and a host of other things at the behest of human resources. They in turn rigged my hearing by committing offenses that if done in a regular legal proceeding would be subject to criminal charges. These things are routine in "due process" hearings.

    Well, the purpose of "tenure" isn't to protect teachers at all but to protect school districts from even more lawsuits as a result of idiotic principals deciding to fire teachers they don't want. However, once the process of firing starts, it is almost impossible for the teacher to fight back as the districts have unlimited funds to fight you. What districts typically do is try and starve you into settling, thus giving up ALL your legal rights for a pittance and most likely any right to unemployment compensation. Most teachers don't fight bogus allegations but either take settlements (which there is NO evidence it makes them any more likely to be hired than somebody who fights and loses) or early retirement.

    Being non-renewed or fired outright has little to do with the quality of the teacher and everything to do with the obscene power imbalance between principals and teachers. Principals are almost impossible to fire, by the way, no matter how bad they are.

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  4. By the way, in theory you can file an appeal of an arbitrator or school board's decision, but the reality is the union will NOT pay for your representation, so unless you have a couple of hundred thousand dollars up front for a lawyer who practices ADMINISTRATIVE LAW, you are out of luck. Unless your termination is a result of discrimination based on a protected class, as I was in a protected class but was made COMPLETELY UNAWARE OF MY LEGAL RIGHTS thanks to my "union" and my union attorney and thus the statute of limitations ran out on filing EEOC, DOL, and federal lawsuits, you are out of luck there.

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  5. The truth is decision makers at a school will get rid of teachers they do not want there. It is no problem for them. They will lie no matter where it goes, bring their friends in, cover up real problems, become as familier with
    anyone they choose as long as they want to, take the available monies and direct it in the
    way they see fit, use situations to move up and bring their friends with them in the name of grandfathering. The clique becomes local control and the stage is then set for inspection so they do not fear until someone does come in who has the money and wisdom to
    make things right which of course does not happen enough or we would not be having so many problems. I speak from experience as I
    called a hearing in 1995 and tenure was not
    even mentioned. I had not done anything wrong
    but I was a tenure teacher with 20+ years of
    experience. I resigned in 1995 because I knew
    those who were not being as professional as they should be would still be there and it
    would be nothing but a fight as they had
    people in line and I did not. It ruined my
    career and knocked my retirement benefit way
    down. Tenure means nothing to too many decision makers these days. Sit down and make
    a list of the problems it causes to families and people because workers have to continually
    change jobs. We are workers.

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  6. From someone who is not a teacher (but was once apsiring to be a teacher before the corporate deform movement went on steroids thanks to Obama) :
    My respect for teachers only grow day by day. I salute you all for doing a noble job.

    What it has all come to in the USA - from the chronicles of a rotting empire :
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/les-leopold/why-are-25-hedge-fund-man_b_531420.html

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  7. Thanks for the link RBE. If not for this post , Forbes is a NO-NO for me. There was another good one recently from a guy in defense of unions. But as they say, even a dead clock is right twice a day. And Dana Milibank too - from your other post. In fact, Milibank hit it out of the park by calling Obama a "bully" of the teachers.

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